houston2005
01-14 01:23 PM
This bill has nothing related to EB applicants.
Also looks like Sec. 501 Earned Access to Legalization may apply only to illegals.
The more it is closer to amensty, it will not go forward.
Also looks like Sec. 501 Earned Access to Legalization may apply only to illegals.
The more it is closer to amensty, it will not go forward.
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swamy
06-12 01:35 PM
most of you seem to presume spillover from future years flowing to India- is that guaranteed? how abt a surge of armenians or bangladeshis using up row #s, which I presume at some point will start moving and head toward C much much faster than India..we're all basically screwed & will be responding to rfe's on retirement day which will be truly sad if/when we have same/similar job then....
andycool
08-11 07:53 AM
Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)
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tooclose
08-12 12:29 PM
Very Disappointment for me.....as i missed it with couple of days.
Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)
I'm not sure if they are going to move dates in Oct or not...
vishwak,
I just got off the call from uscis regarding my I-485. My PD is in the first week of Mar 2006.
Per the USCIS website, they are suppose to process even the first week of Mar 2006 although the Aug VB says it is 01MAR06. I spoke to the second level IO and he was confident that my case would have to wait for the next month. I insisted that the uscis website says otherways, he went and verified with the third level (or his peer) and came back and told me that I was correct.
Infact told me that my case was pre-adjd and being reviewed by IO currently.
I am sure the same applies to you with the Sep VB. Good luck !!!
Note: This is not a legal advice and don't quote me on it.
Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)
I'm not sure if they are going to move dates in Oct or not...
vishwak,
I just got off the call from uscis regarding my I-485. My PD is in the first week of Mar 2006.
Per the USCIS website, they are suppose to process even the first week of Mar 2006 although the Aug VB says it is 01MAR06. I spoke to the second level IO and he was confident that my case would have to wait for the next month. I insisted that the uscis website says otherways, he went and verified with the third level (or his peer) and came back and told me that I was correct.
Infact told me that my case was pre-adjd and being reviewed by IO currently.
I am sure the same applies to you with the Sep VB. Good luck !!!
Note: This is not a legal advice and don't quote me on it.
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chanduv23
10-08 03:49 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
senthil
04-03 04:13 PM
folks. lets keep ourselves focused and acheive what we all want. i cant find the right work to congragulate / appreciate the time and effort of core-team members and the sacrifices, coz without them we wont be where we are now.
I dont know if they work on a job OR do IV stuff full time ...
IV - core team. do you sleep :-)
my2c. cheers. sen.
I dont know if they work on a job OR do IV stuff full time ...
IV - core team. do you sleep :-)
my2c. cheers. sen.
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nrk
08-11 01:01 PM
PD = Date on which your labor application received.
My 140 says it is the date on which my labor application received. i believe it is the case with all.
Please contact USCIS to get that corrected.
Can some one clarify if the PD is based on the day labor application was received or the day it was approved?
My I140 states it as the day it was approved.
My 140 says it is the date on which my labor application received. i believe it is the case with all.
Please contact USCIS to get that corrected.
Can some one clarify if the PD is based on the day labor application was received or the day it was approved?
My I140 states it as the day it was approved.
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kumar1
02-01 01:26 PM
Thank you. I agree with you 100%.
Did you or someone you know experience such questions at POE for an advanced parole? Or are you just posing a hypothetical?
I have recently re-entered on AP and not a single question was asked. Not only that, I was not fingerprinted or photographed at the counter like a visa holder would be. I was taken to the back office where an agent entered information from my AP into the computer, stamped the AP and gave it back to me. No questions asked. Period. This was at the JFK airport in NY.
Parole is meant to grant entry to resume adjustment of status. Parole is not subject to employment, it is subject to a pending I-485.
If this is a hypothetical from you, then please shake these imaginations and live in peace and enjoy EAD and AP.
Too much thinking and too much analysis has caused this community to revert back to H1 lifestyle and they are not using EAD and AP - ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS why we were all so happy due to 485 filing.
What is the point of having an early 485 filed, if you are not going to use EAD and AP and be at mercy of consulates for restamping and be at mercy of employers who will need to sponsor you to hire you?
Did you or someone you know experience such questions at POE for an advanced parole? Or are you just posing a hypothetical?
I have recently re-entered on AP and not a single question was asked. Not only that, I was not fingerprinted or photographed at the counter like a visa holder would be. I was taken to the back office where an agent entered information from my AP into the computer, stamped the AP and gave it back to me. No questions asked. Period. This was at the JFK airport in NY.
Parole is meant to grant entry to resume adjustment of status. Parole is not subject to employment, it is subject to a pending I-485.
If this is a hypothetical from you, then please shake these imaginations and live in peace and enjoy EAD and AP.
Too much thinking and too much analysis has caused this community to revert back to H1 lifestyle and they are not using EAD and AP - ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS why we were all so happy due to 485 filing.
What is the point of having an early 485 filed, if you are not going to use EAD and AP and be at mercy of consulates for restamping and be at mercy of employers who will need to sponsor you to hire you?
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ksach
06-21 08:39 PM
I checked with a lawyer once and she told me that you do not need paystubs for her. you need a paystub for yourself because you should be in status. dont know if all lawyers would agree.
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Saralayar
08-18 04:02 PM
After calling US born children of illegal immigrants as "anchor babies", and family immigration as "chain migration", our friends at the anti-immigrant NumbersUSA have a new term for skilled immigrants, you guessed it "anchor immigrant".
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
Except the native Americans all are "Anchor Immigrants" who became citizens later. The guys in Number USA are also from the same family tree. So let us just do not pay attention to all these b***s*** and waste our time.
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
Except the native Americans all are "Anchor Immigrants" who became citizens later. The guys in Number USA are also from the same family tree. So let us just do not pay attention to all these b***s*** and waste our time.
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apnair2002
01-16 02:43 PM
I paid 50$ through pay pal...Once again thanks for the great effort
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21stIcon
02-19 04:22 PM
hopein07,
What is your understating on money return on whole life ins. plocy?. do you think you can cancel at anytime and get back your premium or withdraw portion of your investment?
Does anything mentioned on your link about policy surrender or money withdrawal when policy is in force? please search more and post here....
What is your understating on money return on whole life ins. plocy?. do you think you can cancel at anytime and get back your premium or withdraw portion of your investment?
Does anything mentioned on your link about policy surrender or money withdrawal when policy is in force? please search more and post here....
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franklin
08-13 09:39 PM
I'll look out for the revised version and take a look - nice job guys!
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ksrk
08-26 08:37 PM
I guess the polling on PD basis is futile it will give people false hope....
Only folks with ND prior to current processing times can expect to have a chance at appoval...I see many people over here beyond the processing date window and are still hoping to get approved....
Let's see if this theory is right or not come september.....if only my lawyer had mentioned that ND over rides PD I'd have forced him to file on July 2nd and not wait till July end....
My bad....
SoP
Hey SoP,
Your point of ND vs. RD (vs. PD even) is certainly valid, esp. given the randomness of dates that the USCIS follows. However, three things to keep in mind are -
1. Last Aug and Sept ('08), neither ND nor RD theories worked, if you believed all the dates entered under .com. Approvals were quite random - some cases with ND beyond published dates were approved, which led us to believe they were processing in order of RD, but no FIFO was followed based on RD.
2. The dates published recently (09/15/2007 at NSC and 08/30/2007 at TSC) are as of June 30, 2009. It has been nearly two months since and an update is possible. Also, by admission of the USCIS, these dates are not exact, only estimates of what cases are being worked on.
3. Finally, these dates do not serve as guidance for IO to approve cases; they serve as an indication to us applicants as to which cases have been processed thus far. And they help determine if we can file an SR.
Only folks with ND prior to current processing times can expect to have a chance at appoval...I see many people over here beyond the processing date window and are still hoping to get approved....
Let's see if this theory is right or not come september.....if only my lawyer had mentioned that ND over rides PD I'd have forced him to file on July 2nd and not wait till July end....
My bad....
SoP
Hey SoP,
Your point of ND vs. RD (vs. PD even) is certainly valid, esp. given the randomness of dates that the USCIS follows. However, three things to keep in mind are -
1. Last Aug and Sept ('08), neither ND nor RD theories worked, if you believed all the dates entered under .com. Approvals were quite random - some cases with ND beyond published dates were approved, which led us to believe they were processing in order of RD, but no FIFO was followed based on RD.
2. The dates published recently (09/15/2007 at NSC and 08/30/2007 at TSC) are as of June 30, 2009. It has been nearly two months since and an update is possible. Also, by admission of the USCIS, these dates are not exact, only estimates of what cases are being worked on.
3. Finally, these dates do not serve as guidance for IO to approve cases; they serve as an indication to us applicants as to which cases have been processed thus far. And they help determine if we can file an SR.
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gcseeker2002
12-06 07:29 PM
It is possible, but what's the point? It will have later receipt date. It is better to file a lawsuit to force the USCIS to issue EAD. It will cost only $350 :)
Has anybody filed lawsuit against uscis for EAD delays till now ? And what is the process for this, do we need a lawyer ?
Has anybody filed lawsuit against uscis for EAD delays till now ? And what is the process for this, do we need a lawyer ?
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sidbee
02-15 10:17 AM
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Outsourcing&articleId=9127943&taxonomyId=72&pageNumber=1
Now that Desi consultant companies are under scanner, i hope employees working for them get their long overdue justice.
H1B has become synonym for visa abuse bcoz of these moron's. I hope the system comesout clean.
I really wish all the desi companies,who get people from India,and put them on bench to find a project ,be banned. They screwed H1B, and in turn all the deserving H1B candidates.
Now that Desi consultant companies are under scanner, i hope employees working for them get their long overdue justice.
H1B has become synonym for visa abuse bcoz of these moron's. I hope the system comesout clean.
I really wish all the desi companies,who get people from India,and put them on bench to find a project ,be banned. They screwed H1B, and in turn all the deserving H1B candidates.
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05-14 07:23 PM
Contributed $120 to date. Cheers!!
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10-05 10:39 AM
Great news! Fight and fight till we succeed!!
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wellwishergc
04-03 12:00 PM
just made some additional monetary contribution to the cause.
Keep up the good work!!!
Quite frankly, I did not want to reply to your post, but your repitition above forces me to!
1) You have NO idea what it was like to find a lobbyist ready to work with us given a) We are dealing with a very sensitive issue b) We had only 10K in cash (5K raised by core members) and another 10K promised again by the core team. Do a real exercise and get a lobbyist to sign a contract with you for after revealing to them that you have only 20K. Try it now with even 50K and see how many lobbyists are ready to tow your line
2) Regarding your talk of Erin Brockovich and all, you do not even seem to grasp the fact that AILA is interested in the 11 million undocument workers. 500,000 skilled workers are nothing but a drop in the ocean compared to them.
In any case, have you done your part in contacting AILA? We have! Its easy to sit on the fence and complain but it takes conviction to actually DO something
3) Do you have any idea how difficult the task is to get amendments in? Do you know how much a fine balance the Republicans and Democrats achieved and are not ready to take on anything that might disturb the balance? Also do not forget that 500K people is not even 1% of the US population but 11 Million illegal immigrants make a sizeable chunk and alsong with Hispanics make more than 13% of the population. Now given this, who would you as a politician try to appease? 13% of the population or 0.1% of it?
4) And what made you think that faxing celebrities is an idea of the core team or QGA? Please read the posts again. It was an idea by a member!
Keep up the good work!!!
Quite frankly, I did not want to reply to your post, but your repitition above forces me to!
1) You have NO idea what it was like to find a lobbyist ready to work with us given a) We are dealing with a very sensitive issue b) We had only 10K in cash (5K raised by core members) and another 10K promised again by the core team. Do a real exercise and get a lobbyist to sign a contract with you for after revealing to them that you have only 20K. Try it now with even 50K and see how many lobbyists are ready to tow your line
2) Regarding your talk of Erin Brockovich and all, you do not even seem to grasp the fact that AILA is interested in the 11 million undocument workers. 500,000 skilled workers are nothing but a drop in the ocean compared to them.
In any case, have you done your part in contacting AILA? We have! Its easy to sit on the fence and complain but it takes conviction to actually DO something
3) Do you have any idea how difficult the task is to get amendments in? Do you know how much a fine balance the Republicans and Democrats achieved and are not ready to take on anything that might disturb the balance? Also do not forget that 500K people is not even 1% of the US population but 11 Million illegal immigrants make a sizeable chunk and alsong with Hispanics make more than 13% of the population. Now given this, who would you as a politician try to appease? 13% of the population or 0.1% of it?
4) And what made you think that faxing celebrities is an idea of the core team or QGA? Please read the posts again. It was an idea by a member!
knnmbd
05-11 03:16 PM
Guys,
I keep hearing that "STEM will be exempt from the quota". What EXACTLY does that mean? Does it mean that:
1) STEM's can apply for 485 straight away if labor is approved regardless of PD?
2) STEM's still Cannot apply until PD is current, but after that no more waiting for the country quota
Yes. If you have a Advance degree in STEM + 3 years experience in U.S on H1b or OPT for F1 visa holders ( the experience is not required as per SKIL bill) AND have Cleared the LC stage AND have applied for and cleared I-140( with the concurrent filing going away) ,then you can file for I-145 irrespective of what the PD is at that point of time and irrespective of what your country of birth is.
I keep hearing that "STEM will be exempt from the quota". What EXACTLY does that mean? Does it mean that:
1) STEM's can apply for 485 straight away if labor is approved regardless of PD?
2) STEM's still Cannot apply until PD is current, but after that no more waiting for the country quota
Yes. If you have a Advance degree in STEM + 3 years experience in U.S on H1b or OPT for F1 visa holders ( the experience is not required as per SKIL bill) AND have Cleared the LC stage AND have applied for and cleared I-140( with the concurrent filing going away) ,then you can file for I-145 irrespective of what the PD is at that point of time and irrespective of what your country of birth is.
Jaime
09-22 03:25 AM
sounds funny and will make news, but I am not sure it helps in our campaign to get the system fixed.
It would get attention and help in educating (legal vs illegal) and would be done in conjunction with other things like:
-sending more flowers
-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
-candlelight vigil at congress
-mass letter mailings from all of us
-human chains
-hunger strike?
-etc
We have to attack simultaneusly (but SMARTLY) from all angles in order to be effective!
It would get attention and help in educating (legal vs illegal) and would be done in conjunction with other things like:
-sending more flowers
-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
-candlelight vigil at congress
-mass letter mailings from all of us
-human chains
-hunger strike?
-etc
We have to attack simultaneusly (but SMARTLY) from all angles in order to be effective!
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