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  • shx
    06-16 03:24 AM
    I am not supporting any fraud, but what I said is, if you find workplace discrimination and contact a career guide, they ask you to find another job. Most sincere career guides will not support lawsuits or retaliation against employer unless you are not in a position to find other work. Even read career sites for women and advice, even in cases of sexual harrassment, they ask the victim to move on as a sensible thing to do, because in the end the company will somehow make the victim lose her job. There have been 1000s of USC Vs USC cases. I am not supporting any fraud but what I am saying is retaliation leaves bad taste in the mouth and world is a small place. For larger good of your rest of career best thing to do is move on.

    Only some crooked lawyer who wants money will tell you, you are doing the right thing.

    Your arguments seem almost convincing. I will have to agree with you that it might be best for the OP's career to just move on to another job and ignore all the gross violations at his work place. Wouldn't that be selfish though? Who is going to set things right, if everyone cares about his/her own career advancement?

    I think you should advise half of the people to move on to other jobs and the other half to fight the violations. Fair?

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  • pappu
    06-25 11:23 AM
    ............Expanding on my previous posts.
    One more thing.
    If you decide to apply multiple 485s with each other as dependents, then file just one first. Wait. Gets its A number and put that number in the other application. This way you will cover one pitfall of multiple filing. It will not cause confusion at USCIS end. Now This will not completely eliminate all risks in multiple filing. There have been cases in the past where when you inquire the status of one application, you will get the status of other. And if the PD of other is new, you can get stuck in a blackhole and will either have to wait for USCIS to sort it out or keep trying other ways to solve it. One of the reasons for delay (rightly put by Murthy) is -- when an application is adjudicated by a CIS officer, if the officer sees that there are other files open for the same individual, the officer will not adjudicate that application until that officer has all of the files in existence for that individual. This causes significant delays and confusion in adjudication.
    Also do not apply EAD and AP on both. This is commonsense. But just mentioning it here in case..
    I also researched the option of CP on one and regular 485 on other. While CP looks attractive, there are lot of risks. I have a big document on this. Overall I would not recommend this to anyone who wants to play safe.
    Even multiple filing option should be pursued by critically evaluating your own situation. See how much you and your wife have secure jobs. How new are your PDS. What catagories do you belong to. Do not just apply because you have money to throw away. If throwing money gives you peace of mind, then by all means give it to the lawyers to file I485.

    Again. There is nothing right or wrong. Multple filing is only good for very specific cases to have a safety net. This is what I have found till now.

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  • chanduv23
    06-16 10:38 AM
    To the Original poster -

    As you are charged up on this issue, can you post a detailed blog on this issue? You can post a very detailed blog right from A to Z on IV blogs so that people read and understand this issue. You do not have to reveal your identity to do this.

    You can also update IV wiki - but a wiki must have links to proper sources and must not look like a "Point of View" article

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  • optimystic
    03-26 02:10 PM
    Just a silly question popped up in my mind...

    Doesn't DOL have a directive telling employers, they have to try to recruit US Citizens first, and only if they do not find properly qualified US Citizens they can go on to search for people having 'other work authorizations' . Isn't that the whole basis for the approval of our Labor certifications in the first place???

    So can the employers not use that directive as a legal loophole and try to prescreen the candidates and ask them whether they are US Citizens or GC or EAD or H1 and so on... as a hidden ploy to figure out whether you are GC or EAD while externally they can still put on a facade that they are just strictly following the legal directives that DOL has laid out?

    Doesn't this 'Try to hire US Citizens first' policy of DOL in total contradiction with the I9 statement of 'no discrimination based on work authorization' ???? I am a bit confused here :confused:

    If this indeed is a legal loophole that employers/recruiters can use in their favor, then admins please delete this post so that the yet unaware recruiter/employer perusing our forums may not get wind of this deadly legal weapon !! :)


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    07-11 01:37 PM
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  • sledge_hammer
    11-25 11:22 AM
    My Dear Punjabi Bretheren,

    Let me help you understand why I think your question reeks not only of idiocracy, but also utter disregard for even basic moral and common sense.

    You wanted to buy a home, live in it for 2 years, sell it and make money. Nothing wrong with it. But, now that the market if not favorable to you, think you are not responsible for payment, and want to foreclose. All I'm saying is you are responsible for your actions; the act of buying a house, making sure you take care of it (read the contract where it says you are to take care and maintain the house to a reasonable standard), paying your monthly mortgage, insuring your home, and paying back the loan with interest by the end of the loan term. You signed the contract. You were ready to reap profits by the sale if there was equity on the home. Likewise you are to assume responsibility of payment if the home value depreciates. This is common sense. This is how the world has been. This is what they teach you as a kid. Why in the world are you complaining about depreciation when you knew this is a possibility when you bought the house?????????????????

    Foreclosing is not illegal. But in your case it is unethical. I'm not even sure if your lender will let you foreclose when you don't have a real financial burden to make regular payments. You are losing 20Gs only. I assume you are capable of paying your monthly payments. You want to relocate to get a better paying job. I do not think the lender will let you of the hook so easily. And why should they? They shouldn't. They should make you pay every single penny that you owe to them!

    And your questions about returning items to the store; you prove again that your a dishonest man! No, you cannot return a used item. It is wrong. Nothing legal about it. Who told you it is legal??? Now you may go back to the store and pretend like you didn't use it, or that the item is defective, and pass it off, but that's YOU!!!! In your own little dishonest mind everything that is in normal circumstances considered wrong is perfectly fine! You and your buddies here like "kumar1", "leo2606", think that it is fine to return used merchandise. You are all a bunch of dishonest people who didn't learn about right and wrong while growing up. Its not too late, go learn!

    Go read this article. Returning used items is fraud!!!!!!!!! It just makes me mad how you could have even imagined that returning a used item was ok!


    this thread was started to get suggestions as to what are the options open in the market..
    if someone did give an option and you dont like it, why dont u give an alternative option rather than venting out uour anger.
    No one is asking you how u feel or what is ethical and non-ethical..It seems that you are such an ethical guy who has not used a product and went ahead and returned it back to the store..If foreclosing is illegal let me know.. People here are giving pros and cons of doing a foreclosure.. i dont know if you own a house or not, and if you do.. dont know if you are having a perm job or a contract..I know so many people who own house and now they are in a fix because of housing market..I am not like other people who have already foreclosed..and btw.. why to blame the people and not the banks.. if i can own a house and pay mortgage which is quite same as a rent, i will better own a house and sell it after couple of years.. what is harm in that.. i may have mentioned about making profit by owning a house.. but i am not looking at becoming rich by living in a house for 2/3 years..Sledge_hammer and you are complaining all the way in the thread about people who are foreclosing or foreclosed.. but not spent your valuable time in letting people, reading the thread, know what are pros and cons of foreclosure and how it can affect 485..


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  • 485Mbe4001
    09-16 12:45 PM
    If possible ask your company HR reps (and coworkers) to make a call too, it will help. Call by the company will make an additional impact. I have asked mine to call. No harm in shooting off an email.

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  • ganguteli
    05-09 02:16 PM
    You can take him and keep him in a cell with Satyam Raju. I don't care.

    How pathetic, you don't even have a response for the "skills" practiced by H1/L1/Indian offshroe companies/fly-by-night operators!!

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    The report said the United States incarcerates more people than any other nation, far ahead of more populous China with 1.5 million people behind bars. It said the U.S. also is the leader in inmates per capita (750 per 100,000 people), ahead of Russia (628 per 100,000) and other former Soviet bloc nations which round out the Top 10.

    The U.S. also is among the world leaders in capital punishment. According to Amnesty International, its 53 executions in 2006 were exceeded only by China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq and Sudan.


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  • anilkumar0902
    08-15 12:21 PM
    hi Guys
    Some one please tell me how to open an SR.. the number on the reciept is 800-375-5283

    MY priority date is Feb 2005 (EB2 India) and Notice date is Sep, 04, 2007

    The other day I took infopass but it was useless.. Any help in how to open an SR is highly appreciated guys


    After hearing your case details on the automated will have to Press 3 and then you can do it yourself. Explain to the customer service rep that your case is outside of normal processing times..etc. Keep us posted what happened.

    Try it .All the best.

    My PD is Oct 2005 (EB2-I) and i am also waiting .


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  • jasmin45
    07-29 07:44 PM
    Bumping this to track the speculations and lies by Lou Dobbs on CNN.


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  • kk_kk
    10-07 09:27 AM
    One of my friend got approved yesterday.

    He interfiled from EB3 to EB2.

    His EB3 PD - 12/2003
    He got the EB2 approved sometime in Jan 2009.
    His RD - 05/2009 (Yes it is right, he applied his 485 in May 2009).

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  • seekerofpeace
    10-05 10:53 PM
    POJ method can be used for all cases that are current and in the processing window...just keep on trying ur luck and I am sure you'll land a decent CSR who will be much much more useful and worth your trials and efforts.
    Be persistent and you have every right to be after all you came this far.
    Write to Janet Napolitano and mention that you are unfairly getting delayed and that you want to know what is holding your application and all checks and clearances done and visa number is available...


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  • Imigrait
    11-22 10:25 PM
    sledge hammer ...... less "hathoda" please.

    Punjabi, foreclosure is legal in the US. If necessary, you've gotto go for it. Others on this thread have given good advice. Especially, figure out what the downsides of foreclosure is. Just figure out if it will be difficult to rent in the future if you declare foreclosure. Rest, do what is financially good for you. Hope things work out for you.

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  • nkavjs
    09-20 12:37 PM
    Assistant Chief
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    USCIS, 111 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
    Suite 7000
    Washington, DC 20529

    I would appericiate, few more people can send an email.

    I emailed the complaint just now.Thanks for sharing


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  • ganguteli
    06-17 02:12 PM
    Good job slumdogs. You are becoming a puppet of anti-immigrants. Today they are using you to throw your L1 brothers out. Tomorrow they will throw you out. There is fraud in H1 too. No visa is perfect. Just like no American citizen is perfect. 1 in 100 citizen has gone to jail.
    If you have so much energy and motivation, why don't you go after anti-immigrants and expose their evil.

    Educated idiots!

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  • bestin
    03-24 09:46 AM
    Yes, it is for a job which does NOT require security clearance.

    Is there a formal way / method to let the company and USCIS know of such discrimination ? Any published guidelines from USCIS ?

    My wife works for TCS and is on vacation .We tried contacting the local office here .Though the guy mentioned that they have projects ,he still wants her to goto India and comeback on TCS visa and sent her a email that TCS policy doesntnot allow EAD holders.


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  • drona
    07-09 07:08 PM
    At this moment it is on the USCIS front page.

    The message no longer appears on USCIS portal now.
    I think they are reading our portals:)

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  • sayantan76
    01-08 11:50 AM
    Yes you are correct.
    I dont know about the Govt and bureaucrats and political aides - maybe they have big attention spans - but i know for a fact if someone in a corporate structure receives such a long letter as proposed originally- most would not have the patience to read it. Maybe, the handwritten and personalized part should be:

    1. I am XYZ - educated at ABC and work in DEF sector. Been in US legally for XX years - no able to buy a house, progress in career, start my company etc for not having visa certainity.
    2. While we wait anxiously for comprehensive reform - the following administrative fixes can speed up the processing backlog, specially for some countries like India, China etc


    Highly skilled immigrants have been a key stakeholder in keeping America competitive and your leadership in providing relief to this segment through these fixes would ensure that the best and brightest from around the world continue to be attracted to America.

    I am also enclosing a detailed write-up on this issue for your further reference and I look forward to your urgent attention in this matter.

    Yours truly.....

    Encl: as above

    Then the standard printed mailer can be an attachment. Keeps the main letter short and sweet.

    This may be a trash proposal - but is based on my close observance of senior management (and i am asssuming senior mannagement in corp world is not that different from politicians) - would increase the probability of the main message being read!

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  • Rajk
    06-16 01:34 PM
    That is your receipt number. In my case, the A# is in the box that has the name of the beneficiary.


    I do not have any number in Beneficiary box.

    Does that mean I do not have an A#?

    Is this an issue?

    Will appreciate your response.

    09-24 11:34 PM
    I have eb3 485 and am working on EB3 EAD. I do not have a h1b

    Eb3 485 Filed on July 2007

    Got a promotion at the same company in Jan 2009 and applied for Labor n Eb2 for the new position

    Still wating for Perm approval in EB2


    I do not want to scare you but what you are claiming here i.e. while working on EB3-EAD aceepting promotion for a EB2-level skill can not be accepted by USCIS. You simply can not accept higher skill level based promotion like that. I think you should first sit down with a good lawyer and find out the solution of this already created mess and then think about interfiling.

    Based on all info you provided it looks like our cases are not similar. I have already new approved I-140 - EB2 base - approved in year 2006. My 485 is attached to EB3.

    11-17 02:20 PM
    I don't have H1 backup and already in 8th year. I am on self employment, But my lawyer suggested to apply H1extension (through my company) as a backup if MTR denied. If MTR are successful they I don't have to go on through H1 hassle again..

    The glitch is - once you have started using EAD and you apply for h1 - you have to get it stamped before you can use it ie your h1 approval comes without a i 94 extension - the costs towards going out - getting visa appointment , stamping etc.... are to be considered, and remember stamping in Canada and Mexico is not easy these days.

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