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  • m306m
    02-14 01:48 PM
    lazycis/hopefulgc I am willing to send $10 as a token of support for your initiative. I am impressed by your confidence and conviction. Let us form a new group and we will definitely get moral support from all good IV members. Personally I dont want to be plaintiff as I have too much to loose. But I support your group. Waiting for your direction.

    I am willing to contribute $10 to get solid legal advice on this and I am willing to contribute a lot more in a lawsuit IF and ONLY IF there is a strong legal basis for it. I have voted NO on the poll, I would prefer we take a more conciliatory approach to USCIS. As the saying goes "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Having said that, if IV were to go ahead with the lawsuit, I could be counted on to contribute financially.

    I appreciate IV for its efforts. Happy V'Day.

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  • deepakjain
    01-22 04:26 PM
    Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight..

    Good Answer, it is easier said then done. Anyone who has been working here without any issues at work place why should he/she leave because of delay in getting GC. Yes we definitely have an uncertain future but that should not stop people like us for staying here, buying house, cars and living a decent life here in US.

    Getting a GC is part of my employment process for staying here for a longer duration without any visa hassles, this should not stop atleast any Indian to live life to the fullest here in US.

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  • diptam
    02-13 09:05 AM
    Nothing to demean you Hopeful GC or any particular individual but this so called community that we are dealing with has none of the above characteristics to go for a CA Lawsuit... The coward and sleeping community wants everyone else to do or facilitate things for themselves. I had first hand experience during SEP 18th rally about the spines , guts , nerves and overall heart of this community when i approached educated ,well-informed ,highskilled peoples for attending the rally and what reply i got. Some of them even had the audacity to call up my family and tell bad things about me ( just because i requested them to wake up for a Rally for THEMSELVES )

    CA Lawsuit with Cowards , selfish , heartless - never ever possible...:mad: But i appreciate and support your idea on a Personal level and willing to put a money contribution if the lawyer finds a prospective ground of but we have to bite and swallow the hard reality , you know :(

    Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:
    The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK. The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get ..........

    USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
    This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.

    By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE! We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.

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  • lazycis
    02-14 02:59 PM
    Life's not simple. It's not A or B. It's usually A and B that succeeds. Like I mentioned in an earlier post going ahead with option A (lawsuit) closes option B ( meetings and negotiations).

    Best approach is IV keeps option B (lobbying) open while a group that agrees option A is better continues to pursue it. There is a lot of support for this measure here. What it lacks is a convinced leadership! Once the leadership emerges and there is action on the ground, who knows, the skeptics may join too.

    Totally agree. A and B are not mutually exclusive. We need to push for admin fix and in the meantime explore lawsuit possibility WITHOUT using IV name (does not mean IV members cannot participate as individuals in the lawsuit).


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  • go_guy123
    06-12 12:01 AM
    "Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. "

    i am not interested in giving red or blue dots but i do hope your citizenship application gets stuck in a processing delay, you too will then realize the implication of your so called Darwinian flush :rolleyes: As they say...when it happens to others its a recession, when it happens to you it turns into a depression...good luck..

    I hope your post did not imply that the ones who got GC's were the 'brightest and the best'.

    citizenship application is actually speeded up when democratic party is in power

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  • old_hat
    05-02 11:41 PM
    You your Freaking eyes and read all the posts here. No one is supporting the LTTE. Why do you deviate from the topic again and again. We are talking about the civilians getting killed...but your freaking mind things and talks only about LTTE.

    dude if u have no arguments, stop from calling names. i am not the one to be riled by intenet name calling. it is no bravery.

    See my other posts and you will clearly see i have said that civilians need to be protected whether they are in darfur, kosovo or lanka. and i was replying to this particular person who was claiming

    <i>It is Indian gov. lobbied efforts to ban LTTE by western country. they are well organized, disciplined and high tech group. some people raise another issue, they recruited young children to fight,</i>

    this guy is clearly condoning LTTE. Dude either you get a pair of glasses or get some arguments with logic and yeah calling someone moron is not an argument.


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  • alisa
    02-15 02:13 AM
    How would letting "people" know that there is a problem help? The only people that matter are politicians.

    I dont' mean people in general. I mean people like you and I.
    Average Joe is probably not googling 'retrogression' as he enjoys his baby back ribs.
    People like you and I are.

    It would increase membership. Which would increase funding. Which would enable us to lobby more. Which will have a greater chance of success.

    From Einstein's famous equation:

    membership+funding+lobbying+patience = chance of success
    Anything else = Absolute failure.

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  • senthil1
    02-13 09:11 AM
    I think unused other country quota is used for oversubscribed countries like India and china in the last quarter. If that is true then even removing country quota will not make much difference for Eb3. Now waiting time is 7 years. It will be 5 years for all the countries. When they remove country quota persons from countries like Europe may lose interest in applying gc as they may think is not worth for them to apply and wait 5 years or more as there is not much difference in lifestyle between US and Europe. I doubt US will remove country cap. But we never know as world changes fast nowadays.Anyhow country quota is not correct and it is similar to reservation in India. If reservation concept is correct then country quota is correct as every country in world get benefit.

    Ethnicity has nothing to do with skill level. Consider this also, if no other countries come close to the 7% limit, but India and China are maxed out. Guess who loses just because of an arbitrary limit? Guess where those unused greencards go?

    They go to a pile of greencards, left unused and wasted. Wash, rinse, repeat the same cycle year on year. June 07 will be a looooooong way away (if you are from a severely retrogressed country), don't kid yourself.

    btw... i was agreeing with abhijitp.


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  • kshitijnt
    04-01 07:59 PM
    Some time back when I asked my chinese colleagues to join IV they commented that is an "indian" immigration forum...

    No wonder they felt that way.

    So if stop discussing this thread, will they join us?

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  • panini
    05-11 05:32 PM
    Hmmm... Not sure what you mean about my opinion and mindset. I was only responding to your "accusation" of SL government destroying "competitiveness" by providing some facts openly known to almost all Sri Lankans but not in the outside world. Those facts also give you an insight in to the root cause of the problem. You are free to form any opinions about me. Just remember that there are two sides to each story. Look at both sides before you make a judgement.

    As for your wish wanting to see Sinhalese and Tamils living as equals in a peaceful sri lanka, we all share that sentiment with you and Thank you for that. Hopefully that day is not too far.

    Panini, This is the kind of opinion and mindset is causing the problem. Your reply tells more than the report i provided. I want to see singalese and tamils living peacefully and with equal rights in SL.

    I pray god everyday for that only. Every human being is same, Getting discriminated and discriminating people is so stone age mindset.


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  • ilwaiting
    03-17 10:33 AM
    The sooner LC substitution goes away the lesser we have to deal with such questions. And the sooner we would get our green cards.

    hi All,

    Can someone give me advice on this:

    I have 4 yrs Bachelors + 6.5 yrs of IT exp. i am being offered a Pre- approved labor(EB3-PD-Nov.2003), which was filed for someone with a condition-Bachelors + 4 years exp., at the time of filing.
    i graduated in June 2000, so i am about 1 year short for the 2003 PD. However i did some part time work during college in India and the lawyer says if i can get exp. letter from that company on a letter head, that should suffice.
    i am concerned if that India exp. during graduation will work or not.
    Has anyone faced a situation like this?
    the (part time exp)company was very small, can this be risky? what do you guys think?


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  • antihero
    03-27 05:18 PM
    The great Indian Satta Market understands the nerve of the nation more accurately then others. And the buzz in the market is that a dark horse, who is not even in this group, will emerge as the next Indian PM.


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  • cps060
    04-04 11:00 AM
    Please let me know if anyone has done this before or you know what the procedure is.

    What are your options if the Canadian PR expires (go to CA get PR and come back to US) and you are still in the US ? OR say you are in your 4th/5th year of CA PR and then you then desire to go to CA, can you re-apply for the Canadian PR ? If you can, what is the procedure .... ?

    Anyone who know abt this, please respond.

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  • sachug22
    09-15 03:25 PM
    Hi ocpmachine,
    But in 2008 and 2009 EB2 India got the maximum share of the spill over visas. But still the dates are in the first month of 2005. So hardly EB2 India moved forward about 6 months to 9 months in the duration of 2008 and 2009 with the help of spill overs. That too in this bad economy where there would be comparatively less labors applied than the previous years.


    I agree the forward movement will be slow, and i am expecting it to go pass PD of 2005 in 2010 fiscal year. In 2009 CIS has many EB2-ROW application pending, and they have processed most of them by now(in 2009). So for 2010, unless they see flood of new applications (from EB2 ROW) we will see EB2-India pass 2005 PD in 2010.


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  • richana
    07-30 06:38 PM
    Ohh the moral police (shiv sena etc) are out, chill out dude what is decent to you is not necessarily indecent to another man and and vice versa. You enjoy the same thing if Salman Khan does it in his movie, right? Don't be a Bore for real get my drift? Or were you the Amway gut I met?

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  • BharatPremi
    07-13 01:43 AM
    Canada immigration is simple & straight forward.

    No expensive lawyers are required or any lengthy procedures. Just self do. Also look at the currency rate of US and Canada almost same... Tax is a little high but medical is fully covered.

    You need to fill forms,send all your education, papers etc and LO ! you are done and get PR Card. Some of my friends got it in less than 2 yrs.

    go to and you can apply on your own.

    P.S: I am not an lawyer. Just another frusted GC wait, wait no reply candidate.

    Canadian Immigration is simple.. But then what? Are you ready to live your life in socialist welfare state? Buying a home in CAN $ 200000 in year 2007 will give you $ 5000 top in Year 2030.. Are you ready for that? Do not choose Good apples from the basket. This guy got a job from Microsoft does not mean that easily you would get settled...One thing I do not understand is why so much zeal about Canadian immigration on American immigration forums.. Is it some mental syndrome to make people part of your own guilt?

    By the way my very nearest relatives and friends have choosen (Many are in IT as well..) Canada to get settled... Some live there since last 20 years... I know how Canada works... And believe me if you get USA GC done.. Canada is not worth considering....More or less Canada is not that a dynamic society... It is still 16th Century European mind set... I can understand someone may get it done as backup but here it seems that some of the people are out to the mission .. And I have a problem there. If somebody is in really a bad shape of US Green card and all doors are going to be closed soon and considering Canada.. That is understandable... But living in US, stating to love USA and writing to drive others out of USA looks contradictory to me.. Hypocrates... US GC is broken and f@@cked up so what .. Try to fight it out as long as you can...And believe me not everbody's grapes are sour yet.

    Other thing, with decision of corporates you can not take decisiion to unsettle your life.. Argument: Microsoft decides to go to Canada and is hirring you .. What can go wrong...many things can go wrong.. you do not know and many things cannot be proved.. With myself it already happened.. In year 2001 Bubble burst my then employer gave me a choice to move to Canada ( Exactly Microsoft kind of public declaration.. Company is also very prestigious and more or less you can consider it of the size of Microsoft).... I took decision not to go and so I was out of the company.. Some friends went there.. after 2 years laid off.. Those 2 years they got American salary on Canadian land (Dream, huh !!!!!!!!) ,, But then what after lay off.. One of them had to sit 6 months to get proper job.. Way less salary... Can this happen to everybody? May not be..But the bottom line is you will have to fiight out the hurdles.. Here you have GC Process hurdle.. In canada you may not have that but you may be having other 100 hurdles... What will you do then? WIll you go to Australia? ...There are 600 countries so at the most you can do 600 migrations :-) By the way both of my friends now want to come back to USA after getting citizenship and their families do not want to move as they have mentally fed up with this move from country to country.. So wise up... my friend


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  • hopefulgc
    02-13 03:03 PM
    GUYS GUYS what lazy cis has posted..
    50 broke ass asylees can do it..
    why can't we ?
    ...i'd like to think we are a community of very resourceful people
    WASHINGTON, D.C.- Immigrant advocates filed a national class action lawsuit in federal court today challenging the Immigration and Naturalization Service's (INS) misadministration of a law that provides persons granted asylum the right to live and work in the United States permanently. The suit, filed by the American Immigration Law Foundation and Dorsey & Whitney LLP, seeks to compel the INS to issue all allotted "green cards" fairly on a first-come, first-served basis.

    Some 50 named plaintiffs represent tens of thousands of asylees throughout the country. The plaintiffs are all refugees who fled persecution in their home countries and were granted asylum in the United States. Under U.S. law, they may apply to become permanent residents, or so-called green card holders, of the United States. Congress has imposed a cap of 10,000 on the number of asylees who can attain permanent resident status each year.

    The lawsuit alleges that the government failed to distribute more than 18,000 green cards in the last eight years while more than 60,000 asylees wait in legal limbo; failed to process applications on a first-come, first-served basis as required by law; and kept thousands of asylees on the wait list who are exempt from the cap. The lawsuit also challenges the government's practice of requiring asylees to obtain a new employment authorization card each year-at a cost that presents a hardship for many families-while they wait for their permanent status.

    If 50 asylees managed to get enough money for action, 50 high-skilled immigrants can do it too. Otherwise I'll be greatly dissappointed. Lack of action is a killer. I was shoked to read walking_dude's post that nobody from MI volunteered to be a plaintiff in DL case. If people do not want to help themselves, IV won't be able to help them.

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  • unseenguy
    08-16 02:31 PM
    Does our people have the balls to do that?

    Thats the problem, our people dont have balls.

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  • ramus
    07-03 11:09 PM
    Cool... Please put her contact email so others can send her email too..

    Just sent her a thank you note and my letter above.

    09-04 02:00 PM
    I am from AP. And my father had first hand experience getting ripped off by this dead mans cronies when they threatened and grabbed my fathers small plot, that he had bought way back in 89, on the out-skirts of Hyd. All it took was one single threatening phone call to my father and my father signed the sale deed for the land the very next day, not asking a single penny in return. His family was more precious to him than the bloody piece of land. My father worked as a clerk in a central govt office. He is a simple man and has no clout.

    I am sad that YSR is dead. I wish he survived but with 3rd degree burns and limped out his miserable life for the next 100 yrs.

    I am from Kerala. not from AP.(studied in Bangalore and have friends from almost every state from India) I AM NOT A REDDY OR RAO.

    Some of my friends are from Bihar (CHILDREN OF MP'S, MLA) go home for elections and lead booth capturing. They shared their experience with me.



    Let the people from AP, comment about him. If they give him second time, it is clear that majority like him. No doubt about it. If he is not good, why you people campaign against him by blogs for go to India and vote against him ???

    I DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY POLITICIANS. But have a sympathy for a dead person and other 5 people in the accident.
    This can happen to any one of us at any time. Do not rejoice in Tragedies.

    07-21 02:35 PM
    Get the number, add to the contact list, name the contact as LOL

    Can you explain me in more detail. How to do this? How can u save their number as

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