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  • msp1976
    02-18 12:33 PM
    I value Mr Unitednations posts as he provides us with the opposing point of view. That is absolutely critical. It would help us strategize and plan.

    This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)

    I agree that his arguments are valuable...

    And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
    You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....

    That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....

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  • Rohan99
    07-21 12:03 PM
    I am annoyed with these stalkers, they get your phone number and then keep calling you. So I have decided to write their names here

    Amitabh Mishra From Sunnyvale area California. You can find this stalker in Sunnyvale area.

    More than the money, these guys are plain stalkers! They don't leave you even if you are not interested and even after blindly telling them right on their face. Anywhere you go, Costco, Walmrt, Indian grocery stores, Malls these guys are right behind you. Next time i am calling COPS and i am going to report these guys.

    Enough of leaving it or taking it lightly becasue of so called "your countrymen" stuff.

    what a PITA!

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  • Legal
    07-21 05:34 PM
    Sorry, silly question. Does this mean that these 32k visas are available to the EB2 I/C folks in Aug/Sep?

    Nothing can be silly when it comes to interpreting USCIS rules and regulations.

    Unused numbers should be used before Sep 30th. There is no mechanism for overflow of numbers to next year.

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  • sugaur
    05-31 12:58 AM
    With Bush and McCain CIR there was atleast a chance for some relief for legal immigrants. Democrats are all like used car salesmen. I wont be surprised if they pass legislation to appease the hispanic community while leaving us high and dry.


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  • samay
    07-14 06:13 AM
    I have applied for 485 last year and I already have I-140 approved so I meet the criteria for AC21.

    My question is that I have not applied for EAD and I am still on H1 with same employer. In case I lose job will I be considered out of status immediately for the reason that I am not using EAD. As I understand being on EAD allows some flexibility in gap in employment until the time of approval of 485 application.

    I suggest you apply for your EAD as soon as you can. It allows you a lot more flexibility and also helps with other issues such as the drivers license.

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  • sargon
    03-28 01:45 AM
    What is the relevance of such long boring rant on an immigration website? What's worse, its not even your original composition. Just some cut and paste from other websites. Cease and desist from such behavior.

    And then they say, they are the future of India.


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  • perm2gc
    06-26 01:48 PM
    nope. The august bulletin which gets released mid july didn't get into our arguements at all. We were specifially talking about july filers and july month.

    Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
    my attorney also said same thing..

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  • akred
    06-27 11:58 PM
    That depends what the adjudicator think of her, some believe she was a saint and some think that she was, well, "(boolean) NOT saint" (i.e. anything but saint)... ;)

    maybe she can hit the darned adjudicator in the head with the "holy grail" and sign the form herself... :D

    At that point she can be deported for fraud. Of course USCIS will only wake up and deport her for fraud when the application for citizenship is filed 20 years later.


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  • nixstor
    09-23 01:29 AM
    As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

    IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

    Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.

    If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

    Who to write to

    Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (

    You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (

    Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.

    Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis



    This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis – the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
    assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.


    Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

    It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.


    Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.

    How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

    (1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

    (2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

    (3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor’s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

    (4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

    (5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most – at the banks.

    (6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

    (7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.

    As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.


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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 12:24 PM
    If you don't believe what IV does, why are you wasting your time here....I see that you are totally jobless....
    why are you wasting your time here....
    I DO believe in what IV does. Why do you think i am here trying to change the mentality of the abusive corase minded people out here. So you see my friend time here is not wasted

    I see that you are totally jobless....
    Ahh my friend should not job does not concern you. Instead of worrying about my job what you should be worrying about is the dsiscussion and what are your opinions and remember i am only looking for commnets on teh issue at hand. Anything else is not worth anything but ia m sure you are going to ignore the advise. Seriously please clean up your mind


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  • Legal
    07-21 10:55 PM

    (AC21). This Act resulted in the recapture of 130,107 unused employment-based visa numbers from 1999 and 2000 to be made available to first, second, and third preference employment-based immigrants once the annual limit had been reached. Approximately 94,000 of those recaptured visa numbers were used in 2005, none were used in 2006, and 7,312 were used in 2007

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  • grimreaper
    07-21 02:02 PM
    Because of all these experiences, even when you genuinely smile or strike a conversation with a desi, he/she first suspects you to be an ammway guy. I face it everyday, being "outgoing extrovert" in nature, I tend to smile and talk to people in elevators, walkways, malls, restrooms, groceries etc... which is mostly casual fun stuff and most times desis suspect that I am a ammway guy and cut me out harshly.

    When I moved to Cali about 2 yrs back from the midwest, I saw a guy at a desi store in the bay area who looked very similar to an old school friend whom I have not seen in 14 yrs. I went upto him and started talking to him asking if he was the same guy, He insulted me and avoided me like the plague. In midwest, I have not had any similar exp when I have tried stiking any conversation with a desi, so I was shocked. Then my BIL who had been living in the bay area for a while tole me about amway cons being in huge numbers and the fact that Desis do not trust anyone in the bayarea who appear friendly and the probable reason why this guy behaved the way he did. It is sad that we cannot be friendly to our own countrymen.


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  • GCplease
    10-09 02:35 PM
    I mailed the following message to Senators, Representatives, President's Office, various News organizations sometime in April this year. No one bought it except for some standard reply from the Senator's Offices. At this time, when they have bigger issues, we would be at the bottom of the pile -

    "The Economy is inching towards Recession. The President’s Economic stimulus plan will take at least 6 months to bring in the questionable benefits of the Plan. The Fed is aggressively cutting interest rates to turn around the economy. The questionable benefits of these will take a minimum of 6 months to bear fruit.

    Nothing can prevent the economy from going into Recession if the Housing crisis is not fixed, neither the Economic stimulus nor the Feds cutting the interest rates.

    Now, how do we fix this Housing Crisis. We need to figure out a way to add home buyers. Now, where are the buyers, you may ask. There is surprisingly an easy answer – Employment based Legal Immigrants. These are immigrants who came into this country legally, pay their taxes and social security and who apply for their Employment based Green Cards, the legal way.

    There is a huge backlog of employment based legal immigrants who are waiting to get their Employment based permanent residency (Green card). There are approximately 750,000 applicants in line. This backlog has been caused by the annual quota of employment based green cards whose annual limit (140,000) was set decades ago.

    These are the immigrants who have already passed through two stages of immigration processes – the Labor Certification where it has been verified that no American talent has been available for the Job Descriptions these immigrants were hired for and The I-140 where the employer is verified to be a genuine employer with financial ability to pay for the immigrants so that they don’t become a liability for the state. They are in the final stage of the Green Card process where this huge back log is.

    On top of this, visas not used on a calendar year due to enough resources not available to process them, are wasted. Over the years, these un-used visas amount to around 160,000.

    Increasing the annual quota of employment based Green cards from 140,000 to 300,000 would be ideal. Even Microsoft’s Bill Gates has supported this idea in his recent Congressional testimony on March 12, 2008. But that would require the act of Congress and the Senate and it needs to take its course. We need an immediate solution. Re-capturing the unused visas just needs some administrative fixes and this has been done in the past as recent as 2005.

    Senator John Cornyn is working on an Amendment that would allow the Department of State and DHS to recapture unused employment based visas. Refer -

    In this he states,

    “This (recapture) is not an increase in employment-based numbers but rather, a direction for the agencies to use all the visa numbers that are available today”.

    If these unused visas are captured and issued to the Employment based legal immigrants, who have stayed in the country for at least 6 years, we are adding a significant amount of home buyers to the economy.

    These immigrants will eventually get their Green Cards in 2 to 4 years. Why not give it to them now so that it will be beneficial to the ailing economy.

    The 160,000 un-used visas that are captured and the annual quota of 140,000 employment based Greencards for 2008 amounts to 300,000 green cards which amounts to approximately 150,000 families getting a green card.

    Employment based legal immigrants (EB1, EB2 and EB3) who have stayed in the country for 6 years are economically well off and have excellent credit history. Once they get a Green Card, they'll feel more secure and think about buying a home and settling down.

    Of the 150,000 families, 25 % may already own a home. 25% may not have the intention of buying a home due to various reasons. Even if the remaining 50 % buy a home,75,000 homes will be taken off the market. This will act as the much needed catalyst and will ease the Housing crisis a little bit.

    At a median price of 200,000 (this could be much higher as most of the Employment Based GC aspirants live in the metro areas where the price of houses are much higher), this is an addition of 15 Billion dollars into the economy. By this time, the President’s Economic stimulus plan and the Fed’s interest rate cut will come into effect and the Economy will be saved from going into a full blown recession. "

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  • Desertfox
    09-23 05:35 PM
    FIRST lets just send out the emails as requested by IV (Yes, this is OFFICIALLY ENDORSED BY IV initiative)
    We will have all the time in the world to discuss the details.

    OK... I support the initiative because it will remove some people ahead of me in line. However, I bought a house last week with 3% downpayment on FHA loan, and now how can I justify writing an email with the draft that urges for GCs only for those who paid 20% downpayment?

    Can you give me some thoughts on this so that I can make my selfish mind to agree on writing this email to congress?


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  • kris101
    07-03 04:25 PM
    Hi Forum,

    I have come to USA last year and was getting paid consistently till May31. Now, on July 2nd new employer (not a desi, but a big company) applied for transfer on premium processing. I'm continuing with my old employer, and they are marketing me, and have all such emails. Just wanted to know whether the paystub will be an issue for transfer? And how soon can I join them, and what is the risk if I join them now, before I wait for response from INS?

    Any response in this regard will be highly appreciated.

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  • brad_sk2
    01-19 10:58 AM
    Yes but there's a big difference in the humane involved in drug narcotics and prostitution Vs the humane involved in consulting.
    If you wife, sister or mother were to work as consultant you probably won't mind, but image them choosing business you suggested. Hopes that puts a little prospective of the difference involved in your mind.

    Good rebuke.


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  • alterego
    12-19 03:47 PM
    Looks like this issue is finally getting some attention in both the lobbysphere and in the legislature. I was pleasantly surprised to see this on the yahoo techticker.
    It is actually a very sensible partial solution. I hope it will be a part of a multipronged strategy to solve this. I am under no illusion that we alone can solve this, but we can help.
    We are already an integral part of this economy but being prevented from contributing fully to it, by purchasing homes and investing into it. It hardly seems a radical approach to integrate us fully by giving green cards if we buy homes. Those who have secure jobs and rare skills are the ones who will buy. Those immigrants will help near and longer term.

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  • swo
    07-11 11:32 AM
    You can find some bad things about Canada here -

    The criticisms of this website are LAUGHABLE. The Economist's quality of life index has rated Canada and Australia the top countries on earth to live in, overwhelming, year after year after year after year!

    Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Melbourne, Sydney and Perth consistently dominate the top 10 cities in the world to live. 6 of the top 10?

    Having spent enormous amounts of time in both those countries I can tell you they are wonderful, sensible places to live.

    The index takes into account, cost of living, earnings capacity, safety, etc.

    Canada probably has one of the most rosey futures on earth. It has an abundance of resources, a tiny population and ironically, global warming is adding to its opportunities. Both countries have avoided a single year of recession since 2000, are likely to benefit for ever-higher walls to migrants in the US, and on top of that, both governments continue to operate under surplus budgets.

    Cost of living is actually far below that in places like NY and California.

    Health care, while not top notch, provides better care on average to more people than is likely to be found in places like the US. Particularly for people that are older and more likely to need it.

    Education is infinitely better. US Public schools are atrocious.

    As for the weather, well duh! :) The weather in Minnesota, Chicago, New York and Detroit wasn't that much better last time I looked! And Vancouver is mild and stunning.

    Yes, taxes are higher. How do you think these things are paid for? If you think it's a dog eat dog and you think that the state shouldn't provide education and healthcare, then that's fine. Canada and Australia just aren't for you!

    Anyway, both countries have advantages. I love the U.S. and that's why I'm here. But don't let an inarticulate and unfounded set of ridiculous statements turn you off. Do you own research and make the choice that is right for you!

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  • dvb123
    02-15 10:59 AM
    There have been some class actions in Employment based category. Have to research more on these.

    07-13 01:01 PM
    Congratulations on a wise move. Those who adapt to changing circiumstance inherit victory, ALWAYS. All the best!

    02-13 10:56 PM
    you cannot sue for incompetence, or the courts would be full!

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