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  • engineer
    07-04 09:47 AM
    Anybody who got contact at NPR or anybody who want to take a challenge and work on contacting NPR and telling them about our story.

    Sent NPR following:

    Dear [Insert Name]

    Re: Administration Slams Door on Thousands of Legal Immigrants

    Per US DOS July 2007 Visa Bulletin that came out on June 2007, all Employment based categories were going to be "Current" starting from July 2nd. Based on this information, many of legal immigrants like me, with approved labor certifications, worked day and night, spent enormous time and money to prepare our applications for filing Adjustment of status (AOS) application (I-485). This involves, going through a medical checkup, getting shots for required immunizations and paying hundreds of dollars in lawyer fees.

    The applications were all ready to be filed but against all odds, DOS issued a notice in the morning on July 2nd, informing that no AOS applications will be accepted. The visa bulletin has basically been revised and no employment based visa numbers are available for any legal worker. It states that visa numbers are no longer available until October 1st when the FY 2008 would start. This is such a waste of so much money and efforts from the legal workers, some of whom were waiting for more than 3 years to file for their AOS applications. They finally saw a hope and prepared themselves, but even before the day came, their hopes were taken away from them. It is amazing how the DOS and USCIS can make such a big mistake in their predictions about the visa number availability.

    The visa bulletin for June had moved the visa availability dates (referred to as priority dates) by more than a month for certain categories. A number of applications for AOS were therefore expected to be filed in the month of June. However, DOS still calculated an abundance of visa numbers and therefore moved all the dates for all categories to "current" for July. And now this morning, the visa bulletin has been revised to make visa numbers unavailable to everyone. This does not look right and begs for an investigation. The whole system of generating cut-off dates is not defined and there is every reason to believe that the dates are manipulated to serve certain hidden agendas.

    Please do a news story into this matter to help legal workers who are in USA for many years. Some of us have been working in the US for more than 10 years and still do not have permanent residency. We are paying our taxes and are law abiding members of the society. So we request President to intervene in this matter.

    If you like more information, please contact me at [email address] or [cell phone no].

    We are part of Immigration Voice is a non-profit organization (501 (c) (4) approved) working to alleviate the problems faced by legal high-skilled foreign workers in the United States. We act as an interface between this set of immigrants and the legislative and executive branches of the government. We work towards eliminating procedural hurdles by interfacing with the government branches that formulate policy

    US DOS July 2007 Visa Bulletin:

    US DOS revised bulletin for July 2007:

    Administration Slams Door on Thousands of Legal Immigrants: AILA Condemns Agencies� Bait and Switch

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  • mbawa2574
    09-28 10:21 AM
    As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

    IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

    Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.

    If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

    Who to write to

    Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (

    You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (

    Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.

    Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis



    This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis � the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
    assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.


    Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

    It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.


    Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.

    How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

    (1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

    (2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

    (3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor�s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

    (4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

    (5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most � at the banks.

    (6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

    (7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.

    As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.


    This would be a great idea and anywaz US will have to do something out of box to resolve this crisis. They have already lost the status of economic superpower and this country is going towards breakdown in case they don't welcome immigrants who bring in/generate capital for this country. Protectionists really need to be shut off at this point of time.
    Now Questions is the best way to accomplish this ? In 2007, I wrote multiple emails to regarding this but never got a response. So if we can get this thought into their minds, this can resolve our issue and can give a good amount if relief to housing industry.

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  • johnmcdonald98
    03-26 06:47 PM
    And does this mean that this law will definitely change, or is it still possible that vested interests may still keep substition alive?

    I want to know this too... What's the rough estimate, how long will it take before this will be come LAW?


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  • AirWaterandGC
    05-10 07:13 AM
    Does anyone have a comment on this ?

    I do have my CA PR. Waiting for US GC, my CA PR clock is ticking. Once I am more than 3 years past in the CA PR card and if I still dont go to CA, I understand that my CA PR may not be renewed. My question is : Is is possible to at least enter CA for the last (during 5th) year of CA PR ? Also is it possible to re-apply for the CA PR once I am say 4 years done in my CA PR life without entering CA ? Gurus , please shed some light.

    On another note : I would request no one to make offensive remarks about a great country like Canada. It may not have as many opportunities as US has or be a lot more restricitve in providing licensure to some professionals, but please bear in mind that it has provided respect to some of us by making some of us it PR .... which the great US is still to bestow on us. Even when we have not contributed a single cent to CA or its economy while we have earned/contributed millions to the US / its economy.


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  • digmetalq
    08-17 03:32 AM
    Maybe Indians don't have balls, but there is something called cultural exchange which every country share with each another. Now if SRK decides that US immigration has mistreated him and he decides not to enter US, world is not going to fall down. Recently I heard that HOLLYWOOD wants to come BOLLYWOOD to make investments, maybe out of bussiness sense HOLLYWOOD should support SRK. Big B recently refused doctorate from Aussie unversity in support of Indian students mistreated in Australia. Maybe Indians don't have balls but they have brains.

    Did I forget that we can light our bulbs.

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  • sledge_hammer
    02-16 08:27 AM
    Great find!

    I guess all the talk about suing USCIS will go down the toilet based on this excerpt from the article -

    "Assuming that under the plenary power doctrine noncitizens possess few, if any, constitutional protections with respect to entering the country, the implications of racial and national origin exclusions on citizens must be considered. Because the Constitution unquestionably protects the rights of citizens, citizens claiming injury have a better chance at successfully challenging the immigration laws than noncitizens directly affected by their operation. Courts have recognized that citizens in certain circumstances may challenge the lawfulness of immigration laws because of the impact on their rights."


    Paragraph 1 of Article 1 establishes the definition of racial discrimination for the purpose of the document. Paragraphs 2 and 3 limit the operation of the convention. As to why paragraphs 2 & 3 were included, perhaps they were required to get countries to sign on to the convention.

    Here's a better link. Read under Modern Racial Exclusion, excerpts of which I have posted below.

    ...similarly situated persons (e.g., siblings and children of U.S. citizens) may face radically different waits for immigration depending on their country of origin, with accompanying racial impacts.

    The law created a new immigrant visa program that effectively represents affirmative action for white immigrants, a group that benefitted from preferential treatment under the national origins quota system until 1965. Congress, in an ironic twist of political jargon, established the "diversity" visa program, which though facially neutral prefers immigrants from nations populated primarily by white people.

    The link to the CERD report is here. The convention does not address the country limit directly as the convention expressly does not apply in that area, but it does show that there is awareness about the discrimination faced by immigrants.

    You can see that the UN panel is aware of the fact that racial discrimination manifests itself in disproportional representation (note the reference to the composition of the Supreme Court). It can be argued that the 7% country limit provides a pretext to discriminate against India/China/Mexico on the basis of ethnic or racial origin, and as such would run afoul of the convention.


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  • EndlessWait
    12-15 09:32 PM
    Can we ask Congressman Barney Frank(House Financial Services Committee Chairman) and Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren to look at this. Can IV get an appointment with them.

    Immediate GC for pending EB applicants, if they buy house.

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  • Nikith77
    06-17 02:49 PM
    lets not fight between ourself. Let us be happy to see someone is gettting their GC,s


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  • Saburi
    07-23 10:35 AM
    Go ahead.

    Hello this question is for Lawyer, i will like to find out how can somebody find out if the I 140 is been revoked by the old employer.

    Please help me out i will like to find out the way to find out as my employer told me he will revoke my I 140 but have not got any information from USCIS aslo the the online status shows case approved in sep 2006.

    Please let me know if it is revoke would Uscis send a letter or the online system would say any changes online.

    Thanks Saburi

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  • snathan
    08-20 10:31 PM
    ^^^Not sure about the credibility of this news since its from TOI, but SRK seems to have bitten off a little more than he could chew! Rest assured, he will get his publicity one way or the other. :D

    SRK also equally crap to talk lets give this thread rest to peace..


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  • n_2006
    06-28 10:16 AM
    I think the 40,000 number is the wastage predicted by the ombudsman at the prior rate of approval that was prevalent earlier in the year. This probably implies that CIS would have used about 100,000 numbers at it's prior rate or about 25000 per quarter. This in turn would imply that CIS would have roughly 40000 (predicted wastage) + 25000 (last quarter's numbers that might have been used had CIS continued at it's earlier pace) = approx 65000 available starting June 1. I highly doubt if this could be used in just a month or two.

    But all said and done, whatever the real number of visas that's available I feel it's in everybody's best interest to just apply at the earliest they possibly could.

    Can somebody please provide some information interms of country quota? This 40000 can be used for any country? Or if India and China used their quota and still visa's left, next visa bulletin may show retrogession for India and China and current for other countries?

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  • Legal
    07-22 09:38 AM




    I totally agree with this. They have been trying hard to do the right thing WITHIN THE LIMITS OF CURRENT LAWS and be fair as much as possible.

    Do you agree with my statement there are 40k numbers available for EB which should be used up before Sep 30th? 20,000 each in August and September. And I bet that's what they are planning to do. I realize this could be wishful thinking . But everything points to that direction. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.


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  • chintu25
    02-12 09:47 PM
    i see people making assumptions based on ROW..... Please explain how ROW dates affect India/China Dates ??

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  • Kodi
    05-12 03:08 PM
    Tamils live the same life as Sinhala and Muslims, if you're visited sri lanka you would see that. Schools are open to everyone within their respective distances, tamils conduct business same as muslims and sinhala. What you're discussing is something that happened when the country was given independance and the sinhala policy came into act. This is not the case anymore in sri lanka, if it was all the tamils in the country would have moved to the north where their so called saviors were fighting.


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  • amitjoey
    01-14 12:24 PM
    Let us all promise ourselves that we will not get personal with each other. No abusive, foul language.

    We can disagree with each other but we have to watch our tone and not engage in personal attacks.

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  • newuser
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    Here is the link ( for the reporter contacts that was compiled for the last media drive


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  • bestia
    02-13 11:44 PM
    What rights did the Natives have in the 18th and 19th centuries when Europeans invaded their lands, and massacred most of them? Did they respectfully ask the Natives if they could immigrate? No? They walked in as if they owned this land. As a Canadian, I'm ashamed to say that this happened in my country too.

    That's an old story. The answer is: "if someone commits a crime, it doesn't give you right to commit crime".

    Why not go back and say "Well, Homo Sapiens themselves 150,000 years ago migrated to Europe from Africa and exterminated native Neanderthals. So why don't we just go and exterminate Europeans today and take Europe?"

    If it wouldn't be Europeans, there wouldn't be technological advanced United States and we wouldn't want immigrate here. We are not migrating to Kongo or Sierra Leone, don't we?

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  • hiralal
    06-01 07:28 PM
    ss benefits when we retire is such a long way away ..who knows what the situation will be that time ..US just needs a law change and ss benefits can be denied at that time ,,,so it makes more sense to discuss and act on recapture rather than waste time on something that will occur is 2025 or later ..just a thought

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  • reddymjm
    09-23 03:48 PM
    As per the other thread HR5882 is dead for now.. So concentrate on this now...

    04-28 08:23 PM
    Now its just a matter of time..I'm glad it is a rule now. I think
    a ton of applications will end up in trash cans. Especially from these
    consulting companies..

    Only thing is that they have 45 day validity for approved labor.
    Hope they extended it some more time.

    06-05 04:17 PM
    :) I thought it was understood by now, that without changes in law, there is no "speedup" (for 485 approvals). USCIS has been super efficient recently, what is missing is the "visa number".

    We are not discussing justifications of US laws. We are trying to find ways within the existing laws, for speeding up our cases.

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