Canadian_Dream
09-14 04:17 PM
Most people here fail to realize the cost of immigration is very heavy at a personal level, especially in globalized economy. If we assume that average wait time for Green Card is 7-9 years (earlier it use to be 4-6 years) consier the following:
1. Professional Growth: This one takes the biggest hit. I know many people at my work who have got GC in past 4-5 years after the usual wait time, they have hit the wall in the career front. Their peak productive years when they were to rise exponentially are gone in waiting. Now most of them are lost in corporate America looking for a place where they can somehow make up for the lost years. I don't think they have found it yet. Most believe that going to home countries might help to find that niche and make up for the growth. This solution might work when the economies of Asia are growing at 8-10% but no one knows for sure in long term.
2. Financial Growth: A lot of investment opportunities are lost becasue no one wants to make a long term invetsment commitments in the state of limbo. Besides that most households have to live on single income source making their earnings below average household income. Even after getting GC one cannot make up for this loss. This creates a permanent under class and I not sure what kinds discontent it leads to.
3. Others: Family (Spouse's professional and others) and presonal stress that one has to go through during the wating years.
I wonder if there is a study outlining these impacts. This is become all the more relevant when the standard of living and opportunites at home are closing the gap rapidly. Getting GC use to outweigh these cost in the past (90's) but lately questions are bound raise on one's mind if this price is justified.
1. Professional Growth: This one takes the biggest hit. I know many people at my work who have got GC in past 4-5 years after the usual wait time, they have hit the wall in the career front. Their peak productive years when they were to rise exponentially are gone in waiting. Now most of them are lost in corporate America looking for a place where they can somehow make up for the lost years. I don't think they have found it yet. Most believe that going to home countries might help to find that niche and make up for the growth. This solution might work when the economies of Asia are growing at 8-10% but no one knows for sure in long term.
2. Financial Growth: A lot of investment opportunities are lost becasue no one wants to make a long term invetsment commitments in the state of limbo. Besides that most households have to live on single income source making their earnings below average household income. Even after getting GC one cannot make up for this loss. This creates a permanent under class and I not sure what kinds discontent it leads to.
3. Others: Family (Spouse's professional and others) and presonal stress that one has to go through during the wating years.
I wonder if there is a study outlining these impacts. This is become all the more relevant when the standard of living and opportunites at home are closing the gap rapidly. Getting GC use to outweigh these cost in the past (90's) but lately questions are bound raise on one's mind if this price is justified.
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chantu
07-25 01:07 PM
My wife always reminds me this. According to her, its ok to read forums and keep yourself updates with what's going on ... but don't get to much into it, otherwise you will loose your peace of mind.
It is not about you browsing on this forum continously..it is about you not paying attention to your wife continoulsy.:D:D
Even if there would no IV..wife will tell you the same for some other stuff you are following vigourously.
It is not about you browsing on this forum continously..it is about you not paying attention to your wife continoulsy.:D:D
Even if there would no IV..wife will tell you the same for some other stuff you are following vigourously.
MDix
02-11 01:58 PM
That's absolutely right.
I personally think Mr. MPADAPA's assumption is wrong. Last year (2008), the spillover came from Family quota of 2008. Spillover from Family or Employment quota of a particular year cannot be given to the following year. So the fact that there is nothing left from the family quota of 2008 doesn't change any situation here.
So, this year the spillover that Employment category can get from Family quota will be the unused numbers of 2009 Family quota.
This is just my thought!
Thanks,
MDix
I personally think Mr. MPADAPA's assumption is wrong. Last year (2008), the spillover came from Family quota of 2008. Spillover from Family or Employment quota of a particular year cannot be given to the following year. So the fact that there is nothing left from the family quota of 2008 doesn't change any situation here.
So, this year the spillover that Employment category can get from Family quota will be the unused numbers of 2009 Family quota.
This is just my thought!
Thanks,
MDix
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thomachan72
05-17 10:52 AM
Incidently the murthy deletes all your posts if you mention anything about immigrationvoice.com or immigration-law etc. May be they fear they will loose the business!!! Who will give them business anyway:D :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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ilwaiting
12-12 01:03 PM
Here's your answer in the bulletin
EMPLOYMENT: Demand for numbers in the Employment Third �Other Workers� category, as well as the China and India Employment Second preference categories, has been escalating. No movement in those cut-off dates will be possible until the current level of demand subsides.
I hope it doesn't retrogress in future.
I still don't understand why is EB-2 not moving forward especially that EB-1 is current.
EMPLOYMENT: Demand for numbers in the Employment Third �Other Workers� category, as well as the China and India Employment Second preference categories, has been escalating. No movement in those cut-off dates will be possible until the current level of demand subsides.
I hope it doesn't retrogress in future.
I still don't understand why is EB-2 not moving forward especially that EB-1 is current.
AZ_GC
08-20 04:17 PM
We all know that LC can be used by the employer for substitution and I-140 is owned by the company too. The employer cannot be charged with anything even if you take him to court as he has not done anything illegal, except for breaking the verbal agreement between you and him. What you can do is take the wire transfer details or copy of the check you gave him and tell him to give your money back or you can prove in local court that the money was transffered to you (if he refuses to pay back). Of course this would mean you will probably lose your job and the H-1 status. Basically you will have to swallow this pill and just wait till dates get current or do H-1 transfer to another employer.
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titu1972
07-25 10:55 AM
NSC: E-Filed June 02
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
Mine got approved on July 23. Didn't receive physical card.
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
Mine got approved on July 23. Didn't receive physical card.
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07-26 03:38 PM
Man u guys are faaaaaaaaaaaast!!!!
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thanks for posting the actual link...
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrele...mes27Jul07.pdf
even before USCIS did....
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thanks for posting the actual link...
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrele...mes27Jul07.pdf
even before USCIS did....
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senthil1
09-01 10:03 AM
It is not true that Many people have to wait 10+ years to get gc. May be some people might wait for 10 years because of frequent change of jobs , layoffs and also ignorance of green card processing. Most of the time EB2 waiting time is 2 to 3 years. Indian EB3 is in worst situation but only for past 2 years and before that everything was current. For that also most waiting persons filed I 485 because of July VB issue. In my opinion EB3 PD will be backdated up to 5 years.
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
This is your only chance. There is no more rally later.
If you want to wait 10+ years for your green card, stay at home and hide. (Retrogression will just get worse, I guarantee). If you want to change your future and get a GC one day please show up at the rally. We are there to show that we even exist, no need to do anything else. We need everyone.
No one cares about people who doesn't exist.
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
This is your only chance. There is no more rally later.
If you want to wait 10+ years for your green card, stay at home and hide. (Retrogression will just get worse, I guarantee). If you want to change your future and get a GC one day please show up at the rally. We are there to show that we even exist, no need to do anything else. We need everyone.
No one cares about people who doesn't exist.
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ashkam
03-27 11:55 AM
I am not the one who is arguing for the sake of it. You are. So far I haven't seen any "in depth" logical reasoning from you. I am not replying anymore to your arguments unless you come up with some real logic.
Also, until you explain how an illegal intruder in a house doesn't qualify as a security threat, all your requests for logic smack of hypocrisy.
Also, until you explain how an illegal intruder in a house doesn't qualify as a security threat, all your requests for logic smack of hypocrisy.
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eb3India
04-13 05:06 PM
hey guys I think its OK now to call IV as Indian organization with this bulltin and per their statement there is a good chance that ROW will move ahead and we will be stuck EB3 India in particular
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485InDreams
08-21 12:34 PM
Guys...I found this blog in that site...This is one good example that employers watching the threads....so, wht may be the reason... never give the employer details...
Hi,
I was on Hib with EliteCareers and they had sposored by GC.
It was very smooth sailing. They had everything down, very professional. Everytthing reltated to following up on time sheets, payroll, leave, etc was handeled very efficiently.
When I had some problems with Blue Cross not passing a claim on the medical bill, I was able to get the benefits person in chanrge to talk to Blue Cross and resoolve it immediately.
Jeri-Mc Fadden was the person with whom I mainly interacted. And she was always there to help, guide, and interface with the client. Most important, whatever terms I had discussed and agreed with her at the start, she was true to it all the time. Even when the company said, "oh, this is not company policy, we do not allow this". she stepped in and said, but for him, we had made an exception. Please proceed. That was very helpful.
It was a totally stressless experience... not like other H1b experience I had where even if I had something in writing, I was never sure if the company would follow through.
here, I knew, they would.
For best reults, just make sure you have all agreements in writing... like when they will start your GC, who pays what. etc.
So even if Jeri is no longer there, you have that in place. And the company is professional to follow through.
Best part, my GC came through in 6 months of filing.... I-140 and 485 was a breeze.
Just my experience....make sure, you go throughall situations and agree on who does what before, and then no issues. The company follows through. It is a well managed.
- Biju
Hi,
I was on Hib with EliteCareers and they had sposored by GC.
It was very smooth sailing. They had everything down, very professional. Everytthing reltated to following up on time sheets, payroll, leave, etc was handeled very efficiently.
When I had some problems with Blue Cross not passing a claim on the medical bill, I was able to get the benefits person in chanrge to talk to Blue Cross and resoolve it immediately.
Jeri-Mc Fadden was the person with whom I mainly interacted. And she was always there to help, guide, and interface with the client. Most important, whatever terms I had discussed and agreed with her at the start, she was true to it all the time. Even when the company said, "oh, this is not company policy, we do not allow this". she stepped in and said, but for him, we had made an exception. Please proceed. That was very helpful.
It was a totally stressless experience... not like other H1b experience I had where even if I had something in writing, I was never sure if the company would follow through.
here, I knew, they would.
For best reults, just make sure you have all agreements in writing... like when they will start your GC, who pays what. etc.
So even if Jeri is no longer there, you have that in place. And the company is professional to follow through.
Best part, my GC came through in 6 months of filing.... I-140 and 485 was a breeze.
Just my experience....make sure, you go throughall situations and agree on who does what before, and then no issues. The company follows through. It is a well managed.
- Biju
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simikishore
08-09 11:43 PM
My GC got approved almost a three weeks ago. I stayed with my employer through the whole GC process till now. Now I want to move on with better job/salary.
My attorney suggested to stay with the company for atleast 6 months as it may cause issues during the citizenship application. He also mentioned, employer has the right to revoke the approved green card.
Is it really true, employer can revoke the green cards, just merely for switching jobs.
I have my doubts that they can. Did anyone else heard anything similar.
I tried looking at the web but could not find any written law by USCIS on this.
My attorney suggested to stay with the company for atleast 6 months as it may cause issues during the citizenship application. He also mentioned, employer has the right to revoke the approved green card.
Is it really true, employer can revoke the green cards, just merely for switching jobs.
I have my doubts that they can. Did anyone else heard anything similar.
I tried looking at the web but could not find any written law by USCIS on this.
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himu73
10-11 11:47 PM
My labor was filed on July 2004 and I have not received an approval yet.
I got an RFE last week stating that Employeer has to again prove the RIR status of the application.
So Lawyer has started the advertisement process again.
One important issue is over looked here. Small employers will have a tough time in proving I-140 "ability to pay" for employees with older PD�s, whose labor got cleared after Aug 17 from BEC. Cuz the company has to prove its "ability to pay" the proffered wage starting from the date PD is established continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
Suppose the PD for an employee is Oct 2001 and the proffered wage is 80K per annum, then the company should prove that its assets, net income or salary payments were >=80K starting from Oct2001 continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
This is indeed an acid test for small employers.
I got an RFE last week stating that Employeer has to again prove the RIR status of the application.
So Lawyer has started the advertisement process again.
One important issue is over looked here. Small employers will have a tough time in proving I-140 "ability to pay" for employees with older PD�s, whose labor got cleared after Aug 17 from BEC. Cuz the company has to prove its "ability to pay" the proffered wage starting from the date PD is established continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
Suppose the PD for an employee is Oct 2001 and the proffered wage is 80K per annum, then the company should prove that its assets, net income or salary payments were >=80K starting from Oct2001 continuing until the adjudication of I-140.
This is indeed an acid test for small employers.
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Macaca
09-01 10:02 PM
Are you sure about this? That sucks! I always thought you were eligible for SS after you accrue 40 points....basically you get 4 points for every year of work. If you look at your SS report that's sent out before your b'day you will see the points you have accrued.
I thought 40 points was the only requisite; wasn't aware that you had to be a US citizen. Can you please verify this information?
This is my understanding. I started following it in past 2 months. It requires more research. There are articles in News Article Thread.
This remark was made to a person at SJ rally by a bystanding Amercan. (mentioned in SJ Rally thread)
Sessions has also proposed that H1B/GC should not get Earned Income Credit. I dont know all details.
I thought 40 points was the only requisite; wasn't aware that you had to be a US citizen. Can you please verify this information?
This is my understanding. I started following it in past 2 months. It requires more research. There are articles in News Article Thread.
This remark was made to a person at SJ rally by a bystanding Amercan. (mentioned in SJ Rally thread)
Sessions has also proposed that H1B/GC should not get Earned Income Credit. I dont know all details.
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gc_maine2
12-28 03:32 PM
Very good point logiclife. what happens in this following scenario when 140 is approved and when 140 is pending.
Person X has completed 180 days after 485 filing, used is 6 yrs of H1 and now he got a 3 yrs of H1B from the same employer. If this person uses AC21 & EAD and joins another company and after 1 yr his 485 is rejected for wrong reasons, will this person be out of status(since used EAD) or will be in status since his H1b is still valid with the old employer (Assumed the employer has not revoked). Will it be safe to come back to the same employer.
Thanks
Sree
No, you can use H1. But if you go to new employer, of course you have to do an H1 transfer to new employer.
AC21 portability can be used with either forms of work authorization : H1 or EAD. The important thing is to do it after 180 days of 485 filing and to do it after 140 approval.
You can start working for new employer on EAD, or you can use AC21 (without using EAD) by applying for H1 transfer to new employer and working for new employer as soon as you get receipt notice of H1 transfer.
H1 status offers a backup plan in the sense that if your 485 is rejected for wrong reasons, you can appeal the case in office of administrative appeals and fight it out and stay here on h1 while you fight it out. Your H1 status you have at that time of 485 rejection and its validity is unaffected by 485 being rejected. But if you are on EAD, and if your 485 is rejected, then your EAD is invalid and you are out of status, you cannot switch back to H1 from EAD and continue fighting the rejection of 485 thru appeals. You have to go back.
H1 offers a backup plan but the disadvantages are that its more expensive to do for employers and so many employers will not prefer you. It costs between 1600 to 2400 for employers to file H1 transfer and bring you on board, plus lawyers fees needed for filing H1 transfer. EAD is easy, you dont need lawyer and your employer has nothing to worry or deal with. So you will have more options when using AC21 if you use EAD as your work authorization rather than H1. Besides, H1 extensions and transfers are a headache. EAD extensions are easier and they can be done by yourself without the need to get anything from employers and lawyers.
Person X has completed 180 days after 485 filing, used is 6 yrs of H1 and now he got a 3 yrs of H1B from the same employer. If this person uses AC21 & EAD and joins another company and after 1 yr his 485 is rejected for wrong reasons, will this person be out of status(since used EAD) or will be in status since his H1b is still valid with the old employer (Assumed the employer has not revoked). Will it be safe to come back to the same employer.
Thanks
Sree
No, you can use H1. But if you go to new employer, of course you have to do an H1 transfer to new employer.
AC21 portability can be used with either forms of work authorization : H1 or EAD. The important thing is to do it after 180 days of 485 filing and to do it after 140 approval.
You can start working for new employer on EAD, or you can use AC21 (without using EAD) by applying for H1 transfer to new employer and working for new employer as soon as you get receipt notice of H1 transfer.
H1 status offers a backup plan in the sense that if your 485 is rejected for wrong reasons, you can appeal the case in office of administrative appeals and fight it out and stay here on h1 while you fight it out. Your H1 status you have at that time of 485 rejection and its validity is unaffected by 485 being rejected. But if you are on EAD, and if your 485 is rejected, then your EAD is invalid and you are out of status, you cannot switch back to H1 from EAD and continue fighting the rejection of 485 thru appeals. You have to go back.
H1 offers a backup plan but the disadvantages are that its more expensive to do for employers and so many employers will not prefer you. It costs between 1600 to 2400 for employers to file H1 transfer and bring you on board, plus lawyers fees needed for filing H1 transfer. EAD is easy, you dont need lawyer and your employer has nothing to worry or deal with. So you will have more options when using AC21 if you use EAD as your work authorization rather than H1. Besides, H1 extensions and transfers are a headache. EAD extensions are easier and they can be done by yourself without the need to get anything from employers and lawyers.
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Lasantha
12-26 03:24 PM
It seems as per current DOS practice, the answer is yes. They will be issuing only 2800 EB2 visas per year to India and China. They will be issuing remaining unused visas by EB2-ROW to EB3-ROW.
So that means the unused Visa number flow "downwords" within the country category NOT "accross" the EB category.
So that means the unused Visa number flow "downwords" within the country category NOT "accross" the EB category.
svrk
08-22 07:52 AM
Hi SMohan,
I am in the same situation as you are, hoping to file EB2 with a dependent who aged out just after EB3 filing. My lawyer yesterday (Fragomen) confirmed that the dependent will get included in the EB2 filing.
Please verify with your lawyer too. Good luck!
I am in the same situation as you are, hoping to file EB2 with a dependent who aged out just after EB3 filing. My lawyer yesterday (Fragomen) confirmed that the dependent will get included in the EB2 filing.
Please verify with your lawyer too. Good luck!
mariusp
02-20 07:54 PM
A2. This policy change is in response to a 2005 DHS Inspector General
Translation: we got our asses sued!
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